Comments on: How to Roast a Whole Pig http://www.amyglaze.com/how-to-roast-a-whole-pig/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=how-to-roast-a-whole-pig 3-Michelin star kitchen stories and recipes! Join me on my cooking adventures from Paris to Pescadero and everywhere in between Wed, 06 Mar 2024 19:04:13 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.7.2 By: Toni Carrell http://www.amyglaze.com/how-to-roast-a-whole-pig/#comment-9982 Fri, 01 Feb 2013 14:39:13 +0000 http://www.amyglaze.com/?p=2525#comment-9982 In reply to Drago.

Thank you! I can’t take credit for the chicken wire “cage.” However, the shovel handles and wire loops are all mine!

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By: Toni Carrell http://www.amyglaze.com/how-to-roast-a-whole-pig/#comment-9981 Fri, 01 Feb 2013 14:31:40 +0000 http://www.amyglaze.com/?p=2525#comment-9981 I would LOVE to come! But I wasn’t thinking about roasting the pig in a sand pit. It’s really the hot rocks in the bottom of those pits under the fire that roasts the pig, anyway. It’s not so much the fire as all the banana leaves, ti leaves and wet burlap sacks smother the flames as well as most of the embers. I was merely suggesting the chicken wire as a way of turning and moving the pig on your existing rack… er, um… bed frame. Using the chicken wire means you don’t have to rely on the integrity of the pig’s joints. At some point lifting the pig by it’s feet will get you nothing but hands full of feet and a three-quarters cooked pig lying there mocking you from exactly the same place it had been.

You do know that there are places that will rent big grills as well as actual mobile barbecue pits that have spits, right? My aunt and uncle rented a grill for a family reunion once where they did a whole pig on a spit, and another time a friend rented a big grill for her wedding.

As for thoughts on kalua pig, well… it’s to die for! I have only made it in the oven, with banana leaves I harvested myself. I did a whole pork butt when I catered a luau themed birthday party for a friend of mine. I salted the heck out of it, sprinkled a few drops of liquid smoke (which is a natural product that one can actually make btw, unlike most truffle oils) and wrapped it tightly in banana leaves. I then put it in a deep roasting pan and roasted it very slowly (I think 250?) all night and half the next day.

When it had been cooking something like 12 hours I finally took it out and checked it. The banana leaves had gone from vibrant green to a very odd tan color and it scared me a little. But when I cut the butcher’s twine and unwrapped those leaves, that thing just sprawled apart in the pan, yet the meat was moist, gelatinous and the most delicious kind of salty-sweet with just a whisper of smokiness. I was supposed to make a different sauce using some of the pan juices, water, vinegar, more salt and more liquid smoke. I didn’t do that. I just skimmed the fat off the pan juices added some apple cider vinegar and used that. Yes, it was salty, but it was perfection when drizzled on the meat because of the gelatin from the connective tissues. Best of all? Little sandwiches made with Hawaiian style rolls dipped in the pan juices.

If you make kalua pig, not only do you serve fresh pineapple as an acidic element, you must make haupia. I think it is usually a side dish at luaus, but some people consider it a dessert. I just like that is, essentially, coconut jello. It’s easy, but your arm will fall off if you don’t have help stirring it. It takes constant stirring for something like 45 minutes and when it’s done the spoon will stand straight up in the pot! A pain, but well worth it. It only has two ingredients: sweetened coconut milk and corn starch. My son bought a robo-stirrer and we’ve been meaning to give it a run for it’s money by making a batch of haupia. My expectations are pretty low. I’ll keep you posted on how well it works out.

Thoughts about the above ground roasting spectacle? YES! People are drawn to it, almost against their will, like moths to a flame! Even more so, I think, when it’s on a spit. I know I’ve stood and watched the pig spin. One thing I always find myself doing is watching a drop stay in place as the pig rolls over and over, waiting and waiting for it to gather enough weight to drop with a hisssss onto the coals. It really fuels the appetite, too! I don’t know if it’s the aroma or the sight of crispy skin, but nearly everyone LOVES a well roasted pig. I can’t think of anything any better, really. A pound (pre-cooked) per person is barely enough, in my experience. There were only about 70 people at the family reunion and we nearly finished a 140 pound (dressed weight) pig. Granted, we were all family and nobody was being “polite” we were, quite literally, pigging out! Some people didn’t eat anything else.

So where are you going now? Someplace fun, with great food, I’ll bet.

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By: Drago http://www.amyglaze.com/how-to-roast-a-whole-pig/#comment-9951 Wed, 30 Jan 2013 19:23:13 +0000 http://www.amyglaze.com/?p=2525#comment-9951 In reply to Toni Carrell.

That is GENIUS, Toni!

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By: Ms. Glaze http://www.amyglaze.com/how-to-roast-a-whole-pig/#comment-9947 Wed, 30 Jan 2013 17:09:55 +0000 http://www.amyglaze.com/?p=2525#comment-9947 Chef Toni! I’m writing this note on the train on so ill truncate my message although your previous one deserves a more thorough response! I did toy with the Kalua pig idea but I just couldn’t figure out how to personally flip it. The chicken wire makes so much sense! And you’re the first to mention that– I didn’t see any tips like that online! My concern w this method (besides how to flip) is how to know the fire is still going. I was having panic attacks about digging out the hog and finding it raw. However I hear it is very succulent and tasty this way. My other concern was presentation. There is something dramatic about roasting it above ground. Thoughts?

We are holding a pig roast at Potrero Nuevo Farm (with Tunitas Creek Kitchen) in September. Ill keep you posted on the dates!!! Maybe you can come!!

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By: Toni Carrell http://www.amyglaze.com/how-to-roast-a-whole-pig/#comment-9941 Wed, 30 Jan 2013 12:12:18 +0000 http://www.amyglaze.com/?p=2525#comment-9941 Hey, I thought of a tip for you for the next time you roast a whole hog. In Hawaii the kalua pig is wrapped or folded (however you want to look at it) into chicken wire and then the edges wired shut with a soft wire, (maybe copper?) like twist-ties. It makes it not only easier, but possible to move (or flip) a fully roasted pig. A pair of shovel handles can be used as handles on the sides. Just make a couple of large, wire loops on each side to hold the handles.

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By: Toni Carrell http://www.amyglaze.com/how-to-roast-a-whole-pig/#comment-9929 Mon, 28 Jan 2013 13:34:52 +0000 http://www.amyglaze.com/?p=2525#comment-9929 I grew up on a working cattle and sheep ranch. We had chickens for eggs and meat, turkeys and rabbits for meat, and goats for milk. We didn’t raise pigs, but one of my uncles did and so we would trade beef and lamb for pork. We also fished. I grew up watching the various slaughters and knew the difference between pets and food animals at a very early age. The only animal we raised that I ever had a hard time eating was a rabbit I stupidly named after my aunt. My parents couldn’t eat her, either, so I didn’t feel so bad. She got wrapped in foil and taken to one of my aunt’s houses for her family’s dinner the next night. They didn’t seem to have any problems eating “Aunt Carolyn,” but then, they didn’t raise her and play with her on the lawn.

My first paying job (under the table as it was HIGHLY illegal) was working in a butcher shop. My mother was the meat wrapper there and all I really did was clean up the steaks after the band saw, stack them in piles of whatever count they were meant to be wrapped in, and then stamp them with whatever they were. Yes, this was WAY old school, long, LONG before vacuum packaging was available.

After working in various restaurants, bakeries and delis, finally going to culinary school and becoming a chef felt like I’d come full circle. But it REALLY came all the way back to twelve o’clock when I got the gun club job. The club was just a mile down the road from the ranch I grew up on! I could have stood with Daddy’s binoculars on the back porch of my old farm house on stilts and looked across the rice field, corn field and pasture land and seen the gun club. In fact, that is why they hired me.

Once I settled in they loved seeing photos of flooding and high water marks from the 60s. They also loved seeing pictures of me as a little girl on the ranch in places they could still see as they drove by, especially the one of me sitting patiently on the edge of a seemingly empty but flooded rice field with my fishing pole line in the water. Even I have to admit that’s pretty cute and some seriously wishful thinking on my part.

I started reading “Tunie’s” message, but after the first paragraph it was just “blah, blah, blah– SEA KITTENS and SKY PUPPIES!” PETA nonsense to me. I’m not trying to be insensitive here. Nobody is more thankful for the food on the dinner table than farmers because they know how much work goes into food production, and for very little return.

Knowing where your food comes from is important. I do think we will eat less meat out of necessity in the future. Mostly because we won’t be able to afford it with the ever-shrinking middle class and all. That being said, I think most will always eat meat for celebrations. Heck, I got a group of vegans to eat rib roast one year for my birthday! And bacon can convert almost anyone, it is THE gateway meat, after all!

I have no issues with the goings on surrounding your hog becoming pork. Some animals just don’t get into trailers easily, it just is what it is. Anthropomorphizing him and believing that he “knew” what was going to happen is just not reality. Now, he may have known that his old friends got in the trailer and never came back, but he couldn’t know more than that. What really surprised me was that you didn’t save the blood for black sausage, or hardly any of the offal for that matter. Chris Cosentino (and likely Guy Savoy) would be giving you hell for that, you know! But I understand, I’m not big on eating offal, either. However, I sure would have had the trotters removed. Are they even edible when cooked like this?

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By: Het http://www.amyglaze.com/how-to-roast-a-whole-pig/#comment-9884 Sun, 27 Jan 2013 01:09:46 +0000 http://www.amyglaze.com/?p=2525#comment-9884 What a great story. It was a little hard to read I must admit but I have a very difficult time when it comes to discussing animal processing – don’t we all? And I would probably be one of the few that would have a very hard time seeing a whole pig splayed out over the fire. Even still, I’m proud of you for doing it!

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By: Craigkite http://www.amyglaze.com/how-to-roast-a-whole-pig/#comment-9478 Wed, 05 Dec 2012 22:32:16 +0000 http://www.amyglaze.com/?p=2525#comment-9478 In reply to tunie.

I appreciate the idea of killing being difficult for a reason. We are omnivorous. Following a higher calling would possibly lead to only copulating to procreate, and that is not as popular as giving up meat. We try for better, but we are animals. Honoring the creature that carried the flesh that we eat SHOULD be important. Driving by fresh road kill in the area that I live makes me a little sad that the flesh will not go on to sustain higher life forms than worms and rodents. There is not a simple answer, nor should there be. We should be more involved in the process of harvesting our food, but most of us are not. Perhaps we should be forced to consume the flesh of those that we vanquish in battle. Being human has its moments of doubt and questioning.

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By: Amy Glaze http://www.amyglaze.com/how-to-roast-a-whole-pig/#comment-9477 Wed, 05 Dec 2012 20:03:35 +0000 http://www.amyglaze.com/?p=2525#comment-9477 In reply to tunie.

Tunie – What can I say? I agree with you on many different levels and I really appreciate your perspective and voice. I have always struggled with the morality of it – especially when I had to butcher 40 wild game birds a day in Paris not to mention skin and prepare hunted animals from boar to hare.

But I do eat meat although I wouldn’t consider it to be the largest part of my diet so for me there has to be a connection to how the animal is raised and processed. And, I just can’t go back to eating anything raised or processed commercially (industrially). One issue that bothers me today is how we, as a culture, see meat in grocery stores as such an inanimate object – like a condiment or vegetable – not as something special and once living.

I think that the idea of a pig roast as a celebration and special event, which in this case brought a very large rural community of mostly farmers together to celebrate the end of the harvest, was an incredible eye opening experience.

Thanks again for your post….

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By: tunie http://www.amyglaze.com/how-to-roast-a-whole-pig/#comment-9476 Wed, 05 Dec 2012 19:23:12 +0000 http://www.amyglaze.com/?p=2525#comment-9476 In reply to Amy Glaze.

I’d love to share a few points to consider, and truly with all due respect to your chosen professional focus on meat! It’s just something I am thinking about as well.

First, my thought is that whenever we have to ‘convince’ ourselves to do something, that is an indicator right there. And if we feel bad about it, that’s another indicator, as unfamiliar and illogical as the alternative may seem. But that’s the path of personal growth into the unknown. It requires trust and insight.

To continue, courage was not a factor for this particular pig at all – he was killed very much against his will; and you carefully describe how his resistance was simply disregarded. That is not courage. Courage would be if the pig saw that you were going to die without food, then laid down and died in front of you – that’s how the old tales of Native Americans lost in the wilderness go. Then, they proceeded to use the taste of meat as inspiration to take matters into their own hands, and began killing at will, instead of at need, until it became something they thought they couldn’t live without. Being nomads to begin with, nothing stopped them from choosing a location suitable to an agrarian lifestyle but the addiction to flesh and the ease of procurement was irresistible I guess. And so it goes with people today. Flesh and blood are addictive – the whole vampire trend sort of illustrates that parallel with the current fascination for meat. Everyone is trying to convince themselves it’s ok to kill animals that clearly have strong relationship skills with humans and certainly prefer to live. That’s why commercial meat production took it to a factory level – to avoid dealing with the fact that eating creatures you know and love, and what’s more – know, love and trust YOU – is really difficult. It’s difficult for a reason! Humans do not need meat to live well. Especially 1rst world humans.

From an social anthropological view, I think meat is on it’s way out, personally. This next few years is just it’s last hurraw, a sort of celebration of gratitude and appreciation. Whew, that’s a book.

Thanks for opening up the discussion and sharing your feelings so honestly about it!

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By: rxh http://www.amyglaze.com/how-to-roast-a-whole-pig/#comment-9379 Tue, 20 Nov 2012 19:16:48 +0000 http://www.amyglaze.com/?p=2525#comment-9379 This was such an awesome event. The food was amazing especially the pork. If it wasn’t for the heat I probably could have eaten the whole pig 😉

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By: Ms. Glaze http://www.amyglaze.com/how-to-roast-a-whole-pig/#comment-9377 Tue, 20 Nov 2012 16:36:32 +0000 http://www.amyglaze.com/?p=2525#comment-9377 Drago! I totally agree with you – I think the butchering part is really interesting. As for the slaughter part I could never do it, pigs are such big animals and they need to be hung and bled directly after the kill. And I just think the old school way is too long and painful. And then there’s the other part you mentioned, where they become your friend – nope I definitely couldn’t do it…

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By: Drago http://www.amyglaze.com/how-to-roast-a-whole-pig/#comment-9373 Tue, 20 Nov 2012 13:31:39 +0000 http://www.amyglaze.com/?p=2525#comment-9373 What a fantastic article! I recently had the opportunity to break down a whole hog, though it didn’t have the head so it was less-jarring. It’s great to see where all the pieces and parts come from, and the alternate cuts compared to what we see in the store.

In another life I would love to raise adorable furry piglets, but I don’t know if I could stand to do the slaughtering myself.

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By: Ms. Glaze http://www.amyglaze.com/how-to-roast-a-whole-pig/#comment-9349 Mon, 19 Nov 2012 22:38:46 +0000 http://www.amyglaze.com/?p=2525#comment-9349 Patrick – sure you wouldn’t prefer “rattlesnake piccata”? 😉

Craigkite – wow, now there’s a fascinating woman. I studied her when I was pursuing my teaching credential but more for her work with autism and I had completely forgot about her work that radically changed how livestock are cared for and treated in this country. Thanks for this quote!

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By: Craigkite http://www.amyglaze.com/how-to-roast-a-whole-pig/#comment-9348 Mon, 19 Nov 2012 21:55:31 +0000 http://www.amyglaze.com/?p=2525#comment-9348 To quote the grand dame of the slaughterhouse – Temple Grandin: “Nature Is Cruel, But We Don’t Have To Be”

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By: PATRICK PHILLIPS http://www.amyglaze.com/how-to-roast-a-whole-pig/#comment-9347 Mon, 19 Nov 2012 20:17:02 +0000 http://www.amyglaze.com/?p=2525#comment-9347 Reminds me of Tom Waits’ “Filipino Box Spring Hog” from Mule Variations

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By: Amy Glaze http://www.amyglaze.com/how-to-roast-a-whole-pig/#comment-9346 Mon, 19 Nov 2012 19:38:37 +0000 http://www.amyglaze.com/?p=2525#comment-9346 If I had to choose my final resting place, I think the coast would be calling. But, like I’ve said in many other posts that chronicle this farm to table journey. When dealing with the whole processing part, it’s got to be a good death and be done with respect. I think every farmer that I’ve had the pleasure of working with around this incredibly fertile and beautiful area, would agree. Hope I’m not waxing too poetic with this life/death issue here, it just happens to be something I find hard to get used to and yet very necessary to explore.

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By: Ms. Glaze http://www.amyglaze.com/how-to-roast-a-whole-pig/#comment-9344 Mon, 19 Nov 2012 17:24:13 +0000 http://www.amyglaze.com/?p=2525#comment-9344 Maybe….

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By: Craigkite http://www.amyglaze.com/how-to-roast-a-whole-pig/#comment-9342 Mon, 19 Nov 2012 16:13:58 +0000 http://www.amyglaze.com/?p=2525#comment-9342 Do you think that beautiful drive along the coast was exactly how the Little Pig had imagined his last day on earth?

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By: Ms. Glaze http://www.amyglaze.com/how-to-roast-a-whole-pig/#comment-9322 Sun, 18 Nov 2012 21:06:54 +0000 http://www.amyglaze.com/?p=2525#comment-9322 Here’s the dilemma: I never get good food pics after the meal is served. It’s one reason why I have very few meat recipes when in fact I specialize in it. Up until feeding time I always get tons of prep photos, but afterwards it seems to disappear before I can grab the camera. Ah well, next pig roast for sure…

I was a little cautious about posting this story because my pictures on FaceBook of the entire slaughter seemed to illicit an array of emotional responses – not surprisingly.

But, I think and hope that this is the new food trend (or one that is very old making a full circle): that we know where our food is coming from, that we have a relationship with the producer, and that we strive to feed our community thereby not over farming our land and polluting our waters and soils for the next generation. Industrial pig farms can wipe out whole communities and they often have the money to pay off the lawsuits that little farmers and townspeople bring against them.

Industrial pig farms not only pollute water & food systems but they create a stench that nobody can live around. And they do not provide humane animal husbandry conditions. Pigs are very smart animals. It’s sad to me that people seem to know this, but don’t care, and I hope if nothing else that I can shed some light on the process as it should go not as it is…

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By: wattacetti http://www.amyglaze.com/how-to-roast-a-whole-pig/#comment-9321 Sun, 18 Nov 2012 20:37:53 +0000 http://www.amyglaze.com/?p=2525#comment-9321 A WHOLE pig! I’m jealous though we need more photos of the beast as it transforms into meaty crispy goodness. I’ve witnessed a pig transformation and it’s definitely not for everyone, but you’re a definite bada$$ for overseeing everything from literally beginning to end, including prepping your own pit. I guess after this, Thanksgiving prep will be a walk in the park.

PS: your “grassy knoll” location made me thing of JFK.

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