Comments on: Giving Up Gluten? Lemon Polenta Cake with Brown Butter & Walnuts! http://www.amyglaze.com/giving-up-gluten-lemon-polenta-cake-with-brown-butter-walnuts/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=giving-up-gluten-lemon-polenta-cake-with-brown-butter-walnuts 3-Michelin star kitchen stories and recipes! Join me on my cooking adventures from Paris to Pescadero and everywhere in between Wed, 29 Jan 2014 22:39:23 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.7.1 By: Ms. Glaze http://www.amyglaze.com/giving-up-gluten-lemon-polenta-cake-with-brown-butter-walnuts/#comment-12230 Wed, 29 Jan 2014 22:39:23 +0000 http://www.amyglaze.com/?p=4839#comment-12230 Yup, no soy sauce. I think this diet is torturing you. It’s making me feel great and you feel terrible. Perhaps you are the 1% that can metabolize gluten since you seem to do better with it in your diet than without….

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By: Ramin Hedayatpour http://www.amyglaze.com/giving-up-gluten-lemon-polenta-cake-with-brown-butter-walnuts/#comment-12228 Wed, 29 Jan 2014 21:02:49 +0000 http://www.amyglaze.com/?p=4839#comment-12228 Wait…no soy sauce? What’s the world come to. I’ve been having sushi almost everyday since I can’t have sandwiches. I guess I’m not so gluten free after all 🙁

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By: Ms. Glaze http://www.amyglaze.com/giving-up-gluten-lemon-polenta-cake-with-brown-butter-walnuts/#comment-12226 Wed, 29 Jan 2014 19:26:27 +0000 http://www.amyglaze.com/?p=4839#comment-12226 In reply to Ramin Hedayatpour.

Mr. Hedayatpour, a.k.a Husband, You have NOT put on 10 pounds. Maybe 10 pounds in muscle!!! But Chef Wattacetti is backing up your sourdough theory as long as it’s heavily fermented. And he also suggests that perhaps some of that Euro-style heavy wheat bread would be a good alternative if your sandwich requirements aren’t being met.

I’m just curious – if I poke you in the belly tonight are you going to let out a Pilsbury dough boy “oooo oooo”? xoxo

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By: Ramin Hedayatpour http://www.amyglaze.com/giving-up-gluten-lemon-polenta-cake-with-brown-butter-walnuts/#comment-12224 Wed, 29 Jan 2014 18:33:14 +0000 http://www.amyglaze.com/?p=4839#comment-12224 Totally not fair. In fact I’ve put on at least 10 pounds while you’ve lost almost the same amount. I don’t know why I feel like a ball of dough while I haven’t had any in over two weeks. I will say however that the cake is pretty awesome. I think it’s about 1000 calories per slice but very tasty and not too dense.

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By: wattacetti http://www.amyglaze.com/giving-up-gluten-lemon-polenta-cake-with-brown-butter-walnuts/#comment-12217 Wed, 29 Jan 2014 07:00:01 +0000 http://www.amyglaze.com/?p=4839#comment-12217 In reply to Ms. Glaze.

I think you’ll probably want to buy him a new loaf of acme bread because he’ll have a whole whack of other problems if he attempts to eat something that’s been incubating in the bin.

But it’s also not just straight-out sourdough; it’s a sourdough that’s either over-fermented during proofing or that’s been given a super-slow proofing period (e.g. the refrigerator for several days). I don’t know what the acme is like so you’ll have to check for yourselves.

Unfortunately I don’t have a good chestnut “bread” recipe; that one I made years ago was pretty flat and reminiscent of a patio brick. I never went back to experimenting with chestnut because I stopped baking shortly afterwards and because the flour was really too expensive.

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By: Ms. Glaze http://www.amyglaze.com/giving-up-gluten-lemon-polenta-cake-with-brown-butter-walnuts/#comment-12214 Wed, 29 Jan 2014 04:09:10 +0000 http://www.amyglaze.com/?p=4839#comment-12214 In reply to Angela Scarlett.

Angela – I feel for your friend. That must be very difficult to be both celiac and soy and dairy free. Perhaps not so hard when it comes to just daily meals, but I would imagine baked goods are difficult. I’m curious if you have any dessert recipes that you like that fit your friend’s health needs? I find the more events I do these days, the more people I meet who have genuine health concerns and I’m always searching for great go-to ideas….

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By: Ms. Glaze http://www.amyglaze.com/giving-up-gluten-lemon-polenta-cake-with-brown-butter-walnuts/#comment-12213 Wed, 29 Jan 2014 03:55:23 +0000 http://www.amyglaze.com/?p=4839#comment-12213 Wattacetti! Chef! You are a walking encyclopedia of all things food and science. What would I do without you???!!!! Thank you for the Sourdough explanation, my hubby is probably going to go fish his acme loaf out the trash now that you’ve proved his theory – which he researched online attempting to sway me to eat sourdough bread even if we foresake all other forms.

I did find the Chestnut flour and I followed the directions on the back for what they called in French a: ‘Gateaux Chataigne’ (my spelling is probably off) and it was TERRIBLE! My guests couldn’t even eat a bite of it!!! I knew it was going to be weird because it did not call for leavening or chiminique but I thought perhaps it might rise on it’s own. It didn’t. It was sort of like a dense chewy chestnut cake with toasted pine nuts but the texture and the flavor was not what I was expecting. Oh well, I’m going to give it another go but I think I’m going to make more of a genoise cake of sorts and see how it reacts.

Unless you’ve got some recipes???

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By: wattacetti http://www.amyglaze.com/giving-up-gluten-lemon-polenta-cake-with-brown-butter-walnuts/#comment-12208 Tue, 28 Jan 2014 02:02:06 +0000 http://www.amyglaze.com/?p=4839#comment-12208 In reply to Ms. Glaze.

The premise of the paleo diet is that you can eat whatever you want that your caveman ancestors would have been able to find, so that means any foodstuff that was readily available before the invention of agriculture. You can’t have Bragg’s under paleo.

If you want soy sauce, there are some Japanese ones which are made with soy, salt and koji (no wheat), but they’re considerably more expensive even taking into account the transport premium.

Chestnut flour can be found at Whole Foods and other specialty retailers though if you wanted to be really bada$$ you can grind your own chestnuts. I presume it would act similarly to almond flour in pastry but I’m not that good with sweets. I have made one very dense unleavened chestnut loaf, which I recall was slightly sweet and nutty. I was eating it in very thin slices because of the cost.

And yes, an overdeveloped sourdough bread has less gluten and less rise because the acid from the lactobacilli can/will break down protein. The overdeveloped loaves are definitely flat (I’ve baked several failures) and you may not enjoy the taste.

In a similar vein, there is some experimentation with very slow-rise sourdough which is said to develop less gluten but still provide rise but I haven’t really looked into it.

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By: Ms. Glaze http://www.amyglaze.com/giving-up-gluten-lemon-polenta-cake-with-brown-butter-walnuts/#comment-12204 Mon, 27 Jan 2014 18:10:27 +0000 http://www.amyglaze.com/?p=4839#comment-12204 I’m very curious about this Paleo diet since it’s so fashionable with all the guys I know. I assumed it was a mostly MEAT diet and that there might be a lot of secret chest beating and grunting and one shoulder loin cloths. But it actually sounds like how I mostly eat anyways which is veg and protein with small amounts of starch. It sounds a lot like the old Pro Zone diet by Barry Sears.

I will say that even though this cake is gluten-free (and really delicious) it is NOT carb free and even small amounts make me really sleepy. However, I feel a little less guilty without the wheat.

I have trashed the soy sauce for now and replaced it with Bragg liquid Amino acids. I know this is an entirely different entity but they both have a certain similar salinity and fermented flavor. In fact I really like it salad dressings and in sauces, so I feel I discovered a new secret ingredient.

Chestnut flour?!?!?! Where does one get that?!?! Please don’t tell me I have to make it from chestnuts 😉 and how does it act in pastries? Similar to almond flour?

Love pupusas and tacos! We’ve been overdoing on the tacos I’ll admit. I even toast them with butter in the morning when I’m pulling my hair out for bread. I will say that the GF bread I’ve tried is just terrible and it doesn’t make me feel good. And the ingredient lists look worse than the regular bread.

Ok one questions for you science people out there: I recently read that Sourdough bread has less gluten because the yeast breaks it down. Is there any truth in this?

Your friend the human Guinea Pig,

Amy

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By: wattacetti http://www.amyglaze.com/giving-up-gluten-lemon-polenta-cake-with-brown-butter-walnuts/#comment-12188 Sun, 26 Jan 2014 15:17:41 +0000 http://www.amyglaze.com/?p=4839#comment-12188 Well Chef, I’ve worked on Celiac disease and gluten intolerance so I’m very well-aware of what gluten can do to the people who have medical issues with it.

Then again I also come from a culture where wheat and peanut gluten is actively transformed into certain types of side-dishes as an alternate protein for those who decide to become wholly vegetarian.

This is going to be interesting watching you do this because wheat products are obviously everywhere and it impacts a lot of underlying techniques. Did you look at your soy sauce?

I do see a lot of buckwheat, quinoa and amaranth in your near-term future. And muscovado sugar and agave if you really do want to minimize the refined sugar. On the rice side, you can look to germinated brown rice to improve its nutritional content (GABA rice), plus all the other colors as well (the pink Bhutanese stuff is pretty good).

I do have a potential suggestion to address your sandwich issue: the organic corn pupusa. And there’s always chestnut flour to make what would become some incredibly expensive flatbreads.

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By: Jeremy T http://www.amyglaze.com/giving-up-gluten-lemon-polenta-cake-with-brown-butter-walnuts/#comment-12186 Sun, 26 Jan 2014 00:41:18 +0000 http://www.amyglaze.com/?p=4839#comment-12186 We gave up gluten when my wife was diagnosed Celiac, but we found that gluten-free substitutes generally make us feel unwell and unsatisfied simultaneously. Paleo has worked much better – if I avoid most sugars and starches, I can skip meals without feeling terrible, and I don’t have mood swings or post-eating lethargy. I generally eat massive lunches of assorted vegetable salads and meats, two large plates piled high, and experience none of the food coma effect that plagues my high-carb coworkers.

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By: Angela Scarlett http://www.amyglaze.com/giving-up-gluten-lemon-polenta-cake-with-brown-butter-walnuts/#comment-12185 Sun, 26 Jan 2014 00:38:25 +0000 http://www.amyglaze.com/?p=4839#comment-12185 Amy, this sounds wonderful and right up my alley. Of course, I have a friend who has celiac’s who is not only gluten-free, but dairy- and soy-free as well. I always feel challenged to bake in a way that can accommodate her as well when I bake for my meditation group.

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